Date: Mon, 8 Nov 93 12:31:10 PST From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1324 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Mon, 8 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1324 Today's Topics: Anyone worked VE3ONT via EME ? BAUD VS BAUDS Care and Feeding LARGE Gel-Cells? characteristic impedance (2 msgs) Fun with Radio Shack HDN Releases Jameco Parts Catalog Kenwood address - info needed Stolen ICOM 2-meter The first repeater on the air (2 msgs) VE3ONT summary VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 5 November WW DX Fone 93 QSL info: Summary Send Replies or notes for publication to: Send subscription requests to: Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Nov 1993 16:29:18 GMT From: pa.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!athena.uto.dec.com!beyer@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Anyone worked VE3ONT via EME ? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Anybody out there who worked VE3ONT off the moon with their 150Ft dish this weekend? I did on 23, with 100W / 0.5 dB at the feed of a 4.5Ft dish..... /Peter -PA3AEF- -- Peter Beyer Windows, Graphics & Multimedia Digital Equipment b.v. beyer@athena.uto.dec.com ------------------------------ Date: 8 Nov 93 16:18:47 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: BAUD VS BAUDS To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Ken Smith (ken.smith@network.ucsd.edu) writes: >Doesn't BAUD fall into the category of words like DATA? It remains the >same. >Ken Ummm ... not really. DATA is a plural already, the singular being DATUM. According to my Concise Oxford Dictionary, there is no distinction between the singular and plural of BAUD. There's no such thing as "bauds" in there either. Cheers, Simon. ================================================================= _ _ Simon Woodworth | Tel: +353-21-357101 x258 _/ \_/ \_ Motorola Ireland Ltd. | Fax: +353-21-357635 / \_/ \_/ \ European Cellular |-------------------------- \_/ \_/ \_/ Infrastructure Division | uunet!motcid!glas!woods Blackrock, Cork, Ireland. | woods@glas.rtsg.mot.com ================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: 8 Nov 93 17:26:18 GMT From: ogicse!cs.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!newsadmin@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Care and Feeding LARGE Gel-Cells? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I have come into possession of 3 large 12v gell cells, manufactured by Best with a part# bata-048. Could someone point me to a good source for building/buying a charger for these. Also any specs that are available would be appreciated. -- Jeff Hite KF7SZ Computing Center U of Oregon jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu ------------------------------ Date: 8 Nov 1993 16:41:19 GMT From: galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news@network.ucsd.edu Subject: characteristic impedance To: info-hams@ucsd.edu [> The characteristic impedance of a line is given by the formula [> [> Zo = 138Log (d2/d1) [> [> where d2/d1 is the ratio of the respective diameters of the inner and [>outer =================================================== This formula only works for a particular dielectric. 73 de Jack,, K9CUN ------------------------------ Date: 8 Nov 1993 16:40:39 GMT From: galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!avdms8.msfc.nasa.gov!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news@network.ucsd.edu Subject: characteristic impedance To: info-hams@ucsd.edu [In article <9311081152.AA32868@swmis> P.Lucas@mail.nerc-swindon.ac.UK [writes: [> [> No-one has yet pointed out that you can 'measure' it directly! No need [for [> anything electrical, electronic or radio. [> [> The characteristic impedance of a line is given by the formula [> [> Zo = 138Log (d2/d1) [> [> where d2/d1 is the ratio of the respective diameters of the inner and [>outer =================================================== This formula only works for a particular dielectric. 73 de Jack,, K9CUN ------------------------------ Date: 8 Nov 93 11:11:10 From: sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!ilium!rcsuna.gmr.com!rcsuna.gmr.com!vbreault@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Fun with Radio Shack To: info-hams@ucsd.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1993 00:27:05 From: concert!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!darwin.sura.net!math.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.kei.com!news.oc.com!utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!ocitor!FredGate@decwrl.dec.com Subject: HDN Releases To: info-hams@ucsd.edu The following files were processed Sunday 11-07-93: HAMLOG [ HAM: Amateur radio logging programs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HAMLOG43.ZIP ( 277934 bytes) HamLog v4.3 by HB9CQV 20-Oct-1993 english a nd german docs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 277934 bytes in 1 file(s) Total of 277934 bytes in 1 file(s) Files are available via Anonymous-FTP from ftp.fidonet.org IP NET address 140.98.2.1 Directories are: pub/fidonet/ham/hamnews (Bulletins) /hamant (Antennas) /hamsat (Sat. prg/Amsat Bulletins) /hampack (Packet) /hamelec (Formulas) /hamtrain (Training Material) /hamlog (Logging Programs) /hamcomm (APLink/JvFax/Rtty/etc) /hammods (Equip modification) /hamswl (SWBC Skeds/Frequencies) /hamscan (Scanner Frequencies) /hamutil (Operating aids/utils) /hamsrc (Source code to programs) /hamdemo (Demos of new ham software) /hamnos (TCP/IP and NOS related software) Files may be downloaded via land-line at (214) 226-1181 or (214) 226-1182. 1.2 to 16.8K, 23 hours a day . When ask for Full Name, enter: Guest;guest lee - wa5eha Ham Distribution Net * Origin: Ham Distribution Net Coordinator / Node 1 (1:124/7009) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 16:46:18 GMT From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!willis1.cis.uab.edu!right.dom.uab.edu!user@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Jameco Parts Catalog To: info-hams@ucsd.edu > >I had heard rumors Jameco was coming out with a components catalog. > >Got mine yesterday. No chip capacitors, but 20 and 40 watt 2 meter > >power amplifier kits, about $2 a watt output, 2 meter transceiver > >kit, and some other ham kits including some 20 and 40 meter QRP > >kits. > > These appear to be most of the kits from the Ramsay Electronics line > advertised in the magazines. Are they any good? I have been thinking about building a 2 meter power amp with some plans from a Motorola Application Note. With the price of a single transistor about a dollar a watt the price on these kits is attractive. Steve Holland, KD4TTC ------------------------------ Date: 8 Nov 93 18:28:10 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Kenwood address - info needed To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In an article, jonathan bucki (n9mks) writes: >I haven't used my HT for about a year and a half. When I dug it out of the >box I found that I didn't have the manual. Could someone either post >or send me Kenwood's USA address? Or if there is an electronic version of >the TH-26AT manual somewhere, where can I find it? Kenwood's USA operation is at 2201 East Dominguez Street, P.O. Box 22745, Long Beach, CA 90801-5745. Their phone is 310-639-9000. Last time I checked (about 1 year ago) the Amateur Radio Products salesperson was Maria Lopez. You may talk her out of a manual, but it is more likely she will refer you to their distributor to buy one. Parts, service manuals, etc. are available from their distributor, Pacific Coast Parts in Gardina, CA. Phone orders with Visa/Mastercard: 800-262-1312. I have had excellent service from them, more than I can say for the Midwest outfit that supports Sansui (but that's another story). 73 _____________________________________________________________________ Wm. A. Kirsanoff Internet: WAKIRSAN@ananov.remnet.ab.com Rockwell International Ham: KD6MCI (714) 762-2872 Alternate Internet: william_a._kirsanoff@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- Who are you? * I am number 2. * Who is number 1? * You are number 6. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 8 Nov 93 19:52:59 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: Stolen ICOM 2-meter To: info-hams@ucsd.edu >A 2-meter HT was stolen from my car last weekend in Sunnyvale, California. craig -- don't forget to scour the pawn shops. that's where my Yaesu FT727R and FT109rh turned up (still haven't found the HTX-202...). if someone finds 'em they should discretely contact the cops and let them retrieve the goods (pawn shop operators hate being caught with stolen property...8) ). hit up the radio shacks too. one of the guys at one of the stores had had someone come in asking what the '109 was worth...but i hadn't worked my way over to the store yet...was there that afternoon and the possible perp was there in the morning. i also tried to get the word out to all the various organizations in the area -- including things like REACT (one of their guys found the 2 recovered rigs), the pro radio shops, surplus dealers, and such. you never know exactly where a trail will turn up. it does depend on how much this stuff is worth to you tho, because it can be a lot of work....but in my case it yielded 2 rigs and their battery charger so i'd probably do it again. bill wb9ivr ------------------------------ Date: 8 Nov 93 15:34:50 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: The first repeater on the air To: info-hams@ucsd.edu A couple of weeks ago I remember a discussion about the first amateur repeater ever put on the air. Here's something to add to the discussion... Last month, the guest speaker at our club, the Wellesley (Mass.) ARS, was Steve Rudin W1WSN. Steve gave a very interesting talk on the history of FM in amateur radio. He said that there was a FM repeater put on the air in Holyoke, Massachusetts in 1939 (yes, that's not a typo!), so perhaps that could be the first repeater. I don't remember the band or callsign used, unfortunately. Perhaps, as I did, you wonder why and how people used FM in 1939. The motivation for FM was when hams tried to use AM while mobile: the ignition noise was terrible. The AMers and mobile FMers could still talk to each other quite easily, by the way, because FM could be slope-detected on an AM receiver. 73, Scott WO1G =============== Scott Sminkey email: sasminkey@eng.xyplex.com Software Sustaining Engineering voice: 508 952-4792 Xyplex, Inc. fax: 508 952-4887 295 Foster St. (Opinions, comments, etc. are mine, Littleton, MA 01460 not Xyplex's...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 16:54:35 GMT From: galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!jholly@@ Subject: The first repeater on the air To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Scott Sminkey - Sustaining Eng Group (sas@opus.xyplex.COM) wrote: : each other quite easily, by the way, because FM could be slope-detected on : an AM receiver. Yes, that would work fine for FM to AM, but how did the AM'ers talk to the FM'ers? Seems if the AM xmitr is good there should be no FM. Jim Hollenback, WA6SDM jholly@cup.hp.com ------------------------------ Date: 8 Nov 93 17:36:20 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: VE3ONT summary To: info-hams@ucsd.edu VE3ONT EME Test : 1993 Summary During the two weekends of the 1993 A.R.R.L. International EME Competition, the Toronto VHF Society used the 46-m (150') dish at the Algonquin Radio Observatory. Here is a summary of our results. Band QSOs Multipliers 144 235 46 432 246 41 1296 79 29 TOTAL 560 116 = 6,496,000 points As a non-amateur antenna, VE3ONT's score should not be compared against that of other stations. The above listing represents one day each on 144 and 1296 MHz and 2 days on 432. The 432 score may be broken down to: (first day) 167 * 37 + (second day) 79 * 4 new ones. Equipment: 144 & 432 MHz : KW, RHCP helix feeds; 1296 : 100 W, coffee-can with L/R switching. Power amps and transverters were mounted at the feed. Feeds were built by Bob Morton (VE3BFM) of Sinclabs Amateur Products Division. Preamps on 432 and 1296 were made by WD5AGO. Operators: VE2DFO, VE3ASO, VE3BFM, VE3CRU, VE3DSS, VE3EMS, VE3KDH, VE3VD, and W9IP. Conditions the first weekend were fair, deteriorating after 1700 UTC on Sunday. The second weekend, aurora-induced absorption was very bad. QSB made copying weak 432 MHz stations difficult. 23 cm echos were extremely loud; we could hear our own echos with << 1 watt output. However, activity declined to nearly zero after European moonset. We also listened extensively for the Mars Observer with no result, even using AF9Y's extraordinary DSP software. Equipment worked flawlessly the first weekend. During the second week- end, we had some equipment troubles at about 0900-1100 UTC on 432; at 0400 local time Saturday morning, VE3CRU and had W9IP the pleasure of going up in the 90' cherry-picker in wind and snow to fix the 432 MHz amplifier. A large number of EME stations insisted on duplicate QSOs, sometimes 3 or 4 dupes (!). Needless to say, this cut into our ability to work other stations even once. Please QSL to VE3ONT (1993 callbook address ONLY) or to VE3ASO, Dennis Mungham, R.R. 3, Mountain, Ontario K0E 1S0. Color photo-QSLs are being printed; expect a few weeks delay. Michael Owen W9IP (tired but happy) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 93 06:11:06 GMT From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!mstar!n8emr!bulletin@ames.arpa Subject: VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 5 November To: info-hams@ucsd.edu ============================================================== | Automatic relayed from packet radio via | | N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553 | ============================================================== SB DX @ ALLBBS $RTDX1105 VK2SG RTTY DX Notes, 5 November VK2SG RTTY DX Notes for week ending 5 November 1993 (BID RTDX1105) Looking at the reports being received, indications are that the bands are going through a change. Solar flux has been quite low and the forecasts are giving flux below 90 for several days. As result of this situation together with the CQWW SSB Contest of last week, we had general poor activity on RTTY. Our information this week came from ZS5S, 9X5LJ, W2JGR, WB2CJL, WA1MPB, I5ICY, I5IGQ, IK1HSR, F8XT, SP5AA and NJ0M node of the Twin Cities DX PacketCluster. Thank you all for the contribution. Bandpass: Friday 29 0728-14087 9H1ET 0732-14083 UN7LR 1158-14083 HP1XPM 1809-21085 CU1AC QSL to W2FXA 2031-14084 ZS4KK/ZS9 QSL to ZS4NS 2034-14081 NL7VX 2036-14085 T46RR Special PFX for CQWW 2110-14090 FM5GN Saturday 30 0744-14081 P29BT 0828-21073 J28BM ARQ 0830-14087 OM3CPS 0831-14087 YL2KF 0957-21086 CU1AC 1030-21084 ed2fcs 1414-21081 TR8MD QSL F6FNU 1446-14087 EA6MQ 1548-14085 GW0KYT Sunday 31 1341-21089 UT5RP 1557-21085 GI3KVD 1613-21085 EA6VS 1624-21086 IS0CDS 1629-28084 CX6AT 1758-21082 5N/DF8QB Monday 1 0717-14085 YL2FZ 1403-21082 OM2CPS 1403-14084 UN5PR 1423-14085 UJ8JCQ 1535-21086 CU1AC 1640-21084 HJ6SQQ 2340-14087 5N/DF8QB QSL Home CBA Tuesday 2 0032-14087 5N/DF8QB 0038-14087 5R8DG 1118-14085 9H1ET 1329-14083 LY1DD 1430-14093 OH4BB 1716-21089 EA6QK 2224-14089 HK0DPA QSL Box 0890, San Andres I., Colombia 2236-14089 HC6IM 2301-14085 J88BS 2305-14089 XE1/JA1QXY 2326-14086 CO6RR Wednesday 3 0623-14083 RW3PF 1510-14082 EA6PZ 1627-14086 LY1DD 1722-14086 FR5GS 1817-14085 ET3SID 1835-14086 RT4UA Thursday 4 0835-14084 UW9CC 1411-14086 CN8BX ARQ 1415-14073 9K2KA ARQ Notes of Interest WAE CONTEST. I remind you this contest sponsored by Deutscher ARC (Germany) which will take place from 1200 UTC Saturday 13 to 2400 UTC Sunday 14 November (36 hours). For details see the RTTY Journal pg 7 Sept. 93 issue. RTTY Honor Roll. DXAC is bringing up a vote to recognize the achievement of the RTTY DXCC status with endorsements. More info next week. CROZET, FT4. It is reported from Jean, F8XT that Christian FT4WD will be leaving this week. Gilberto, IK1HSR informs that IK3HHX is no more QSL manager for RJ7JYZ since April '93. Furthermore he is at disposal for those DX that need a manager, including QSLs printing capability. Send your bandpass and notes for next week to Bob, WB2CJL @ W5KSI.#NOLA.LA.USA.NA or WB2CJL @ ZS5S.ZAF.AF or WB2CJL @ I5FLN.ITA.EU. GL de (DX2) Luciano, I5FLN @ ZS5S.ZAF.AF /EX SP KT7H @ N7DUO.WA.USA.NA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Nov 93 07:30:50 GMT From: math.fu-berlin.de!news.dfn.de!server2.rz.uni-leipzig.de!news.uni-jena.de!news.tu-ilmenau.de!systemtechnik.tu-ilmenau.de!tom@uunet.uu.net Subject: WW DX Fone 93 QSL info: Summary To: info-hams@ucsd.edu S U M M A R Y This is a list of stations heared in ww dx fone 1993 and their qsl info if listened. Thanks for supplements to Jim AD1C, VE5VA, Pete OH3MEP !!! call info/mngr ------------------------------------------ 4N1T 4U1ITU IK3STG 5B4YX G0KKT 5Z4BI W4FRU 7Q7XX JH3RRA 8R1K Fone: OH1VL, (op was 0h6do), CW will via OH0XX/W4 (op will be oh0xx) 9H1EL LA2TO 9K2JC direct 9K2ZZ W8CNL 9Y4VU W3EVW A22MN WA8JOC AH9B/VO2 Oklahoma DX Ass. C6AFT KD7E CH9DH VE1DH CH9NH VE1NH CN2JF WA0RJY(CBA93) CQ8N CR3R HB9CRV CX0CW LU8DPM EA8AH EA9UK EA9LZ(CBA) ER0F LY1FF FJ5AB direct HC0E HC1QRC HC1OT W2KF HS0AC HS1ASJ HS1BV W3HCW HT1T SM0KCR HZ1AB K8PYD IG8R I0RIZ IQ3A IU0A IU2X J73WA KC4DWI LT5H N6VI/KH6 OH0M OH1NOA OI5AY OH5LLR OK5W OK1AEZ OT3A ON7LR P29DX direct P40W N2MM P43A P43ARC P49T K4PI PJ9M OH6RM PJ9U OH1VR or OH3MMM (both routes ok) S58WW YU3HP SU2MT CBA TG0AA Box115,Guatemala City TM6B TU5DX F6ELE US7I NA3O V26B WT3Q V26N KW8N V31DX KA6V V47KP K2DOX V47NS W9NSZ VK9LI N6AA VP2EC N5AU VP2EJ N6ZJM VP2VFP AB4JI VP5L K4UTE VP5N N2VW VR6ME Box24,Pitcairn Isl.,via Auckland,N.Z. XA5T XE2KB XU7VK HA0HW YS1X W3HNK Z30M YU5GBC Z32KV YU5FCA (CBA) Mazedonia=ex YU ZA/OK2PSZ ZA1B HB9BGN ZB2X OH2KI ZF2JI KG6AR ZP0Y ZP5JCY or LU8DPM ZP80A ZP8HSS ZW0JR PP5JR ZW5B PY5EG ZX0F PY5EG ------------------------------------------ dl5atp, Thomas -- Thomas Planke Planke@Systemtechnik.TU-Ilmenau.DE Technical University of Ilmenau Phone: +49 3677/69-1465 ------------------------------ Date: 8 Nov 93 17:25:04 GMT From: ogicse!uwm.edu!msuinfo!pepper!cravitma@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <2beerb$2m1@jericho.mc.com>, , Subject : Re: Radio Shack HTs In article scofield@apollo.HP.COM () writes: >Possible stupid question: who makes the HTX-202? I have been told that it is made by Icom, but this was by an R.S. salesdroid, so I could be wrong. /MC -- Matthew Cravit | "So I sent him to ask of the Michigan State University | owl, if he's there, how to East Lansing, MI 48825 | loosen a jar from the nose E-Mail: cravitma@cps.msu.edu | of a bear..." ------------------------------ Date: (null) From: (null) The recent policy change at Radio Shack to begin charging for the catalogs has caused quite a bit of resentment. I resented it when I had to pay for the catalog I use as a sales tool (I work there part-time). However, the reality is that we have been paying for the catalogs all along. The catalogs are expensive to produce and the cost of their production had been part of the cost of the products. Not only did we pay for our own catalogs, but the tens or hundreds of thousands of catalogs that were taken from the stores by folks that took them just because they were free. Junk mail and other "Free" advertising seems to have a very short persistance in most folks homes, often landing in the trash the same day it's received. Imagine you worked for a company that published a free catalog. Imagine that 100,000 of those $3 catalogs were discarded within a week. That's $300,000 ... a third of a million dollars that is spent on providing substance for landfills. Given the recent economic climate where every expenditure is evaluated for it's return on investment would you feel that free catalogs were a valuable and cost efficient way to use your companies advertising resources? Although it's a pretty tough policy, I think the company did the right thing, albeit an unpopular thing. Charging for the catalogs reduces the number of catalogs that end up in landfills a week later. (Why does a boogery faced 7 year old need a free catalog and why do all his brothers and sisters need their own catalogs?) Offering discount coupons that more than offset the price of the catalog make them an easier sale. (The people that want one and will use one will pay for the catalog, realizing that the cost will be offset with their first purchase.) In the end, fewer catalogs are taken and those that are taken are taken by folks that will keep them on their bookshelves longer. The cost of publishing catalogs is still covered by the company through the discount coupons, but the total cost is MUCH lower. Anyhow, that's two cents worth from someone on the other side of the counter. -- Val Breault - N8OEF - vbreault@gmr.com \ /| Instrumentation dept GM NAO R&D Center \ / | My opinions are not necessarily those of \ /__| GMR nor of the General Motors Corporation \/ |___ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 15:37:10 GMT From: sdd.hp.com!apollo.hp.com!netnews@decwrl.dec.com To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <931105.56411.GREGL@delphi.com>, <2beerb$2m1@jericho.mc.com>, Subject : Re: Radio Shack HTs Possible stupid question: who makes the HTX-202? -- #* Cary Scofield Hewlett-Packard/CSO/WSG/WTD/Collaborative Desktop Lab *# #* EMAIL: scofield@ch.hp.com PH: (508)436-5765 FAX: (508)436-5146 *# #* USMAIL: 300 Apollo Dr., MS CHR-03-DE, Chelmsford, MA 01824, U.S.A. *# #* "He who knows, never tells. He who tells, never knew." - Lao Tzu *# #* "One man's wisdom is another man's nonsense" - Herman Hesse *# ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V93 #1324 ****************************** ******************************